Monday, July 26, 2010

Is the sense of awe and wonder that you get from seeing natural beauty different than what comes from religion?

or contemplation of your deity?


If so, how?





(obviously, this is a qualitative question)Is the sense of awe and wonder that you get from seeing natural beauty different than what comes from religion?
Not according to William James in his all the Varieties of Religious Experience. The same awe in religion, is the same awe we experiment in a forest or a a sunset, it's just it's directed to religious elements or representations.





芦But religious love is only man's natural emotion of love directed to a religious object; religious fear is only the ordinary fear of commerce, so to speak, the common quaking of the human breast, in so far as the notion of divine retribution may arouse it; religious awe is the same organic thrill which we feel in a forest at twilight, or in a mountain gorge; only this time it comes over us at the thought of our supernatural relations; and similarly of all the various sentiments which may be called into play in the lives of religious persons.禄Is the sense of awe and wonder that you get from seeing natural beauty different than what comes from religion?
One is a sense of wonder at the tremendous combination of natural processes that culminate in the beauty I see.





The other would be attributing supernatural causes to the natural world.





When I stepped to the lip of the Grand Canyon I didn't marvel at how large Paul Bunyan's axe must have been or how meticulous a line God's finger traced through the ground. We already know how these beautiful, marvelous landforms came about and they have nothing to do with a deity.
Well , religion and much of what they taught made me want to only look to survive in nature and only trust myself and no one else. I was preparing for war and did not enjoy life. After much research and in depth study of the Bible in various translations, I came to appreciate the love our creator had in creating things we could enjoy and the ability to enjoy it . The ability to see what's beautiful , to taste good food , to smell the flowers and enjoy the animals at play . What things we experience , as bad about those things, did not originate with our creator . They originated with Satan the devil and his followers. When they are gone then we'll be able to enjoy nature the way it was meant to be. To those that will , point , laugh and mock if you want , it's still worth it . I prepare for war with man no more and live with happiness and peace of mind with full admiration of creation.
I think it is different..Religion only seems to cloud the mind.


But a person can give thanks to God for the creation of it all without sticking it into the box of religion..
Well for me the awe and wonder of natural beauty is part of contemplation of my deities....since I am involved with earth based religion.
Mystical experiences are what Our beliefs are based on. Not just a few books.
my personal experience is that my religious beliefs help me appreciate and even notice it more .. so i see no difference its the same thing ..
Don't stick your gum under my table.
it is more plain for me to see natural beauty

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